Why do men take up so much space on public transport?

Ugh, we've all been there.

Ugh, we've all been there.

Growing up I was a very small child, kind of like Thumbelina but only if the fairytale character had displayed more of a tendency towards eye-rolling and overly dramatic sighs. I quickly learned how to fall limp like a sack of wet sand so as to discourage the other schoolchildren who would come towards me arms outstretched enthusiastically exclaiming, “Let me pick you up!” Another annoying part of being pint-sized was that when three children had to fit in the backseat of a car, I would inevitably be assigned the cramped middle seat. Off we’d drive with me sadly squashed in between the other passengers and with no car window to daydream out of.

As I grew up, I looked forward to no longer having my personal space encroached upon. Foolish miniature me... Little was I aware that my past experience was mere training for the future irritations of public transport.

Most of us would be familiar with those who have been dubbed the ‘man spreaders’, guys who on the train or bus feel the need to sit legs akimbo so their fellow passengers are forced to shrink into themselves to make way for the overspill. Blogs such as 'Men Taking Up Too Much Space On The Train' and the wonderfully titled 'Your Balls Are Not That Big' chronicle the most egregious examples of seat hogging and demonstrate that the problem is a global phenomenon. And the Tumblr 'Saving Room For Cats' has come up with a tongue-in-cheek hypothesis as to why exactly men need to take up so much more than their allotted seat space.

The Tumblr 'Saving Room For Cats' has an idea why guys need so much leg room.

The Tumblr 'Saving Room For Cats' has an idea why guys need so much leg room.

While some online claim the need for ‘man spread’ is a gender-based anatomical issue (something about testicles being like tiny furnaces?), it would seem the many men clearly visible on public transport who are capable of sitting with their thighs running parallel should put that argument to rest. And it doesn’t seem a coincidence that these man spreaders seem to be much happier letting it all hang loose when they are seated next to a female, rather than a male.

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The Metropolitan Transportation Authority last week revealed to AM New York that they would be instituting a new subway awareness campaign to teach passengers to sit properly without impinging on the space of their fellow travellers. Hurrah! Wouldn’t it be glorious if something similar was put in place in Australia so we weren’t forced to sit thigh-to-thigh squashed up against some random man taking up the majority of the seat space? (And please note, any criticisms are not against people who happen to be bigger – it’s the passengers who feel the need to puff themselves up like a peacock when they could very comfortably sit within the confines of a single seat that are the targets of my ire.)

It’s not just on public transport that women seem to be expected to minimise the amount of personal space they take up. Driving past Enmore Theatre this weekend seeing a predominantly female crowd lining up to take in Jimmy Eat World, I was reminded of my own gig-going days (does anything make you feel older than realising you don’t want to go see a live show as the head-pounding, ear-ringing and backache the next day don’t seem worth it anymore?). I’d line up for hours to get the front row position for whatever fey indie band I was into. But as soon as the first guitar strums filled the air, I would be roughly elbowed out of the way and forced to spend the rest of the set staring at some dude’s nasty sweat-soaked back.

If catcalling is about men feeling they are entitled to women’s time and attention, this quite often literally pushy behaviour is about men feeling entitled to women’s space also. One illustrated suggestion is that we all need to get ‘thigh bumpers’ to protect our seat on the train. But public transport users shouldn’t have to defend to the death their allocated space; instead it would be nice if these selfish travellers learned that it isn’t acceptable to assume your right to comfort trumps someone else’s. It’s just a shame it takes a public awareness campaign to drive that home, rather than a simple sense of equity.

43 comments

  • I'm one of the bigger blokes (about whom this article isn't really written) - but due to my size I'm very self conscious about this. Oh, I try - I sit in the corners of seats so I can twist and lean away, but it's not enough. The muscles pulling the legs together always give out on me. I've always wondered if it would be possible to make some sort of knee "brace" so as to support keeping my knees out of others spaces (male and female). Suggestions welcome :)

    Commenter
    DavidRa
    Location
    Sydney
    Date and time
    November 27, 2014, 9:34AM
    • You're not actually alone on that one. As a 160cm slight woman, it's actually not all that natural to sit with legs primly together - but women have been conditioned to consider it highly inappropriate to sit with legs sprawled. I can assure you we don't sit like that, alone at home.

      Kudos for making the effort.

      Commenter
      cuts both ways
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 2:49PM
  • here here! I travel the train everyday and put up with this!. Can anyone give me a suggestion as to a polite way to ask them to "stop airing your nuts" because I paid for my seat too?

    Commenter
    county
    Location
    Melb
    Date and time
    November 27, 2014, 9:52AM
    • I don't go to the city often , but when i do i catch public transport. I've found politely asking the leg-spreaders "Could i please have HALF the seat ?" gets a glare / sarcastic eye-roll / exaggerated sigh , but also compliance , however grudging. I then offer a quiet "Thank you." I'm a small 60 year old bloke and don't like confronting larger younger males , but i don't want their sweaty thighs touching mine either. I sympathise with women who might find it harder to speak to strange men , but my tactic could be worth a try. Good luck !

      Commenter
      Daniel
      Location
      North Coast NSW
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 12:36PM
    • People generally have no respect for strangers in public. Politeness is taken to be a sign of weakness, not a sign of a better person as it should be. Want an entire seat to yourself? Then drive a car or ride a bike. When in public, share public space.

      Commenter
      DL
      Location
      Melbourne
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 2:53PM
  • It is partly anatomical, actually. Men have narrower-set hips. This, combined with the weight of the quads (which can be significant in blokes) makes the legs naturally roll out. Sitting here at my desk I can keep my knees together but I have to concentrate and actively apply tension to do so. If I relax, my legs instantly roll open.

    Commenter
    JDF
    Location
    Melbourne
    Date and time
    November 27, 2014, 9:56AM
    • Agree - a natural sitting posture involves having the feet around shoulder width apart. Unlike the woman in the photo, blokes can't sit with feet and knees together for any length of time

      I'm 6ft and built like the proverbial brick outhouse (92kg). I'd just like to say thanks again to the women on cityrail who move across from the aisle to the middle seat when they see me coming!

      Commenter
      Swifty
      Location
      Streets of western sydney
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 2:09PM
    • News flash: so do ours. Sitting primly is unnatural. Only men get away with sprawling in public. We sprawl comfortably in private.

      Commenter
      cuts both ways
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 2:51PM
    • Yeah. My legs roll out when I relax them, too. Yet I still manage to stay within my allocated seat :)

      Commenter
      Donna Joy
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 3:40PM
    • Yeah. My legs roll out when I relax them, too. Yet I still manage to stay within my allocated seat :)

      Commenter
      Donna Joy
      Date and time
      November 27, 2014, 3:40PM

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